Fundamentals??? An 'old' perspective
There were two 'Thought for the Day' in particular that I want to address here. Here is the one that arrived in my inbox about two months ago.
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Thought for the Day
May 19, 2006
BANKERS OFTEN LEND MONEY ON CHARACTER, BUT SELDOM ON REPUTATION ALONE, FOR THEY HAVE LEARNED THAT NOT ALL REPUTATIONS ARE DESERVED.
When considering a loan, a banker attaches great importance to three things: the borrowers ability to repay the loan, the borrowers credit history, and the borrowers character. The first two considerations can be calculated mathematically; the third requires judgment and experience. Prudent bankers have learned that persons of character are always a good risk because they take their obligations seriously while those who spend their resources on the trappings of success should be avoided at all costs. Protect your good reputation as you would protect your home, your investments, and your life. Once shattered, a good reputation can only be regained by those who have developed the courage and willpower to persevere in the face of great odds.
This positive message is brought to you by the Napoleon Hill Foundation. Visit us at http://www.naphill.org. We encourage you to forward this to friends and family. They can sign up for this free service at our web site.
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Take a look at the 3 things of 'great importance' to a banker, and lets see if the 'bankers' of today follow those rules, or if they have been relaxed a bit. With stated income and no-doc loans, are you giving a banker the info needed to show your ability to repay a loan? With the explosion of the subprime lending markets, are bankers looking at a borrowers credit history the way they 'used to'? And finally, are the 'bankers' of today really looking at the character of the person they are lending hundreds of thousands of dollars?
Napoleon Hill and Andrew Carnegie worked closely with Charles Schwab. Do you think Mr. Schwab would have become the success that he was by ignoring those 3 principles? Maybe the mortgage lender Encore would still be in business if they applied Napoleon Hill's thoughts on banking to their business. Instead, they lent about 60% of their money to people with undocumented income via stated income loans. Is it really any surprise they went under? They were not the first, and they will certainly not be the last company that tries to ignore the 'old' fundamentals in favor of new ones.
People don't understand that this bubble is going to be worse than any other because never in the history of this planet has money been lent the way it has the past 5-8 years. In previous real estate boom/bust cycles, people STILL had to put money down and get a mortgage that paid down the principal (either through a fixed rate or an adjustable rate). How bad would previous busts have been had people been able to borrow 100% of the money on stated (exaggerated) income?
Look at this quote from the CEO of Toll Brothers: ‘It appears that the current housing slowdown is somewhat unique: It is the first downturn in the 40 years since we entered the business that was not precipitated by high interest rates, a weak economy, job losses or other macroeconomic factors,’ said CEO Robert Toll.
The reason this is unique is because the industry completely ignored the fundamentals. Because times were good, they 'creatively' stretched the dollar so that short term monthly payments could be kept low. They have about stretched the dollar as far as it will go...50 year mortgages, 1% neg-am loans, interest only, etc. If the dollar has been stretched to its max when the times are good, what do you think will happen if we DO get higher unemployment? higher rates? a weakened economy? Combine any of those factors with the 'lawless lending' of the past 5-8 years, and what do you think will happen?
Never in the history of the planet has money been lent out in such large quantities, to borrowers with so little documentation, with such 'creative' programs, at such high loan-to-values. The stock market 'defied' the fundamentals for a while. Remember all the 'experts' saying it was a 'new economy' and that you could make money buying companies with NO earnings, that were trading at 180 times future earnings, because it was different this time. Just like the real estate experts that will tell you an 'income property' that loses over a thousand bucks a month is a 'great investment' because it will appreciate.
Once the banks start holding the paper instead of selling it on the secondary market, look for the above fundamentals to return. The free markets work, and will return to the fundamentals. The 'investors' that have been buying all these crappy MBS (mortgage backed securities) will stop buying once they see the junk they have been buying. Once these payments really start adjusting and the defaults start piling up, MBS won't be as attractive as they once were. When the banks don't have somebody else to assume the risk, they will tighten their standards because it will be THEIR money on the line, and not some 3rd party.
I will let the following 'Thought for the Day' speak for itself.
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Thought for the Day
May 21, 2006
ITS MIGHTY EASY TO JUSTIFY DISHONESTY IF YOU MAKE YOUR LIVING FROM IT.
The subconscious mind makes no moral judgments. If you tell yourself something over and over, your subconscious mind will eventually accept even the most blatant lie as fact. Those whose lives and careers have been destroyed by dishonest behavior began the process of self-destruction when they convinced themselves that one slight infraction of the rules wouldn't matter. When you sell yourself on an idea, make sure the idea is positive, beneficial to you, and harmless to others. Just as negative thoughts and deeds return to their originator, so do positive ones. When you practice honest, ethical behavior, you set in motion a force for good that will return to you many times over.
This positive message is brought to you by the Napoleon Hill Foundation. Visit us at http://www.naphill.org. We encourage you to forward this to friends and family. They can sign up for this free service at our web site.
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This 'Thought for the Day' could apply to any number of things in the mortgage or real estate industry...and even the stock mania of years past. It could be over-stating income, pushing the value on an appraisal, glossing over certain 'key' aspects of a loan, or not disclosing an issue with a property...just to name a few. I know that some people made conscious decisions to be dishonest, but many more don't even realize what they are doing as wrong. The barriers to entry to the mortgage and real estate industry are pretty much nil. You could have walked off the street into pretty much any broker shop and said that you wanted to 'dial for dollars' and telemarket for loans...and I think you would be surprised how often you would be accepted. Lots of places would take you in, give you a quick class or two, let you listen to some 'seasoned' brokers on the phone, then turn you loose. When you have programs like 'stated income', it just opens the door to a big 'gray area' where people can make more questionable decisions.
A loan application is really nothing more than paperwork that demonstrates whether or not a person is a good risk for a loan. If the paperwork makes sense, the loan will be made. The problem is when people look at getting a person a loan as a puzzle, or a 'problem' to be solved. Borrower A needs to make X, but they only make Y. How can I get Borrower A to income X? They are sooooo close to qualifying, I will just state their income a bit higher and they will be fine. They will get the house, and the extra 'couple hundred' a month I had to over-state their income isn't going to break them.
You have read the stories about the appraisers that are getting together because they don't like the pressure put on them to 'hit values'. That pressure can lead some people to find that slippery slope that is talked about above. If you do the right thing, you get less business. You hit a number here and there, and you become a 'go to' appraiser. Then before you know it, rounding up a few grand has turned into getting values tens of thousands of dollars higher.
Don't forget the power of the group mentality as well. If 'everybody' else is making lots of money, and this is how it is done, then it can't be wrong....right??
Lets not forget the 'mouths' of the real estate industry. The 'experts' who said that 'real estate won't go down', then changed to a 'soft landing', then to whatever crap they are spouting now days. Look at the great econoMISSED Leslie Appleton Young of the CAR (Ca Assoc of Realtors) as an excellent example of this. Facts and data be damned, real estate doesn't go down, and if it does, it is just a short term soft landing with more 'normal' appreciation for a while.
I also want to say that there ARE lots of mortgage and real estate professionals that never fell into these traps. These were usually the people that had been in the business for a longer period of time, or had some internal sense of what is right. I had the pleasure to work with quite a few people that had 20-30 years in the business. Many of these people didn't necessarily like all the 'goings on' in the 'new' mortgage industry. My whole point is to illustrate that many of the people out there didn't knowingly set out to be dishonest. In California, over 40% of the job growth in this state was real estate related the past 5-6 years. Anytime such a large number of people run into anything, there are going to be people that get lost in the 'gray areas'.
I hope this point is coming across correctly. I'm not trying to say the entire mortgage or real estate industry is this way, but it only takes a small percentage of people to influence an industry.
Look at the quality of the company that Napoleon Hill and Andrew Carnegie kept. They knew that the fundamentals were key to long term success. Who do you think will be right? Napoleon Hill and company who place a high value on the 'old' fundamentals, or todays crop of mortgage and real estate professionals who say "its different this time". The last group of stock-jockeys and financial planners that said it was 'different this time' are still looking at a NASDAQ that is less than half of its peak of 6 years ago. It will only be a matter of time to see who is right on this one...the real estate 'experts' or the fundamentals.
You know where I stand...
I look forward to the comments and feedback.
SoCalMtgGuy
4 Comments:
Great Post! But I think there's a fundamental difference between the times of Napolean Hill and today. At that time, Fed didn't create money out of thin air (and Fed had barely come into existence at that time!).
So what the lenders were giving away wasn't 'funny' paper money but real cash and accordingly borrowers were being appraised on the basis of solid credentials.
Now things have changed, lenders are lending the 'cheap' paper money whose marginal cost of production is close to zero, while the borrowers' don't really have the income streams to pay it back.
Somewhat like the Soviet days where they used to say, "They pretend that they pay us and we pretend that we work!"
Glad to see you back posting on a more regular basis. Some day, do tell us what industry you are in now. Very smart move to get out of mortgage banking when you did.
I know a mortgage banker who is scaling out.
1) "Everyone is shopping you around now. There's too many brokers competing for the same loans. He's not closing deals with the same rate/frequency, so he wants to allocate his time elsewhere.
2) He bot a few rental properties in the last 5 years. Some were losing $500mo, and now he's getting out. Way Ahead.
3) Rolling all his money (7 figs) into a gas station. 15 year lease, and will own the land outright at the end. ($3mil+ current value). And will retire in his 40s.
VERY Smart guy.
Risk taker
Good timer.
Sounds good
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